Saturday, September 01, 2018

Public Preaching.@ Cogon Public Market - Cipriano Jhun Carpentero

September 01- we conducted public preaching.@ Cogon public Market Thank you brother Erwin Andallon, Alvin John Cadile, Jun Labial and Arlou Lucaban who participating the works, Specially the brethren from Box-1 Macasandig, San Simon and Tagoloan church.

SDA VS. CHURCH OF CHRIST - Written in Cebuano by Bro. Edgar Samodal, Translated to English by Men Mark Tumandan

REAL NEWS – (Disclaimer: This is written in refute to the NEWS of the SDA that I, Edgar Samodal and my company were defeated in the Bible Debate with the SDA). A Bible Debate between church of Christ and Seventh Day Adventist was held in Bagong Silang, Iligan City on August 27, 2018. Jerry Laig was the debater of the SDA while I and Bro. Fred Samodal were from the church of Christ. But Jerry failed to prove what he affirm considering he had no evidence that “The Sabbath Day which was Seventh Day is that God made for the good of man (Believers) who has faith according to what is written in the verse of the Bible”. The verse he had given never prove that the “The Sabbath Day which was Seventh Day is that God made for the good of man who has faith according to what is written in the verse of the Bible”. And when he was cross examine by our Bro. Fred Samodal, he kept on ignoring the questions and through deception of letting his fellow members to shout and clap their hands, and this man named Joseph Ayong, allegedly will become a “pastor”, wearing his formal attire, with a great voice shouting and dancing in the midst to distract the attention of the debators. And then this Joseph Ayong in his young age, manifest an attitude of lying through saying that allegedly I, Edgar Samodal suggested or the one made the proposition or the topic of the debate. Honestly he was not present when the topic was to be agreed, and this was what Jerry Laig through telephone call and Guiler Ocampo who was the debate coordination of the SDA was present, in which the agreement for the topic was made for almost 3 hours because Jerry Laig no longer want to face in the agreed topic I made. So, my dear friend Guiler Ocampo, please reprimand Joseph Ayong because in his young age already manifest an attitude of lying and not a formal man in his conduct. I and Jerry Laig agreed the topic we both made but this Joseph Ayong denied the fact, so his named is appropriate to him “grabi ka-Ayong bakakona si Joseph.” I hope he will face Mark Ampan Tumandan in a debate, let us see if he won’t be coward. With regards for my side, Jerry Laig (SDA defender) did not able to refute my position even with a single verse. I affirm that Christians assemble upon the first day of the week which is Sunday according to the Bible. Only one verse he had given to refute the text in Acts 20:7 that in other translation of the Bible it says Saturday that we gathered together to break bread. But assuming it says “Saturday”, then this will be a boomerang to them because if they really believe it to be “Saturday”, then why do they not assemble at Saturday evening and break bread on that day? The debate revealed the attitude of the SDA and then they boast that allegedly they won the debate. Below herein are the verses in the Bible being quoted in the debate, please study them and try to see if I had indeed prove my point. See if either I or Jerry and his company are the liars….and you definitely watch in FB Live the Debate and in You Tube or just type: Debate: Edgar Samodal (Church of Christ) Vs. Jerry Laig (SDA) Pt. 1, Pt.2, Pt.3 and so on. 1. John 20:19 - (KJV) Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you. Juan 20:19 - Ceb. Bugna - Unya sa pagkahapon nianang adlawa, ang nahaunang adlaw sa semana, ug sa nasirhan ang mga pultahan sa ginatiguman sa mga tinon-an, tungod sa kahadlok sa mga Judio, si Jesus miabut ug mitindog sa taliwala nila, ug miingon kanila: Kaninyo ang pakigdait. Joh 20:19 (Easy to read Version) The day was Sunday, and that same evening the followers were together. They had the doors locked because they were afraid of the Jewish leaders. Suddenly, Jesus was standing there among them. He said, "Peace be with you!" Joh 20:19 - (God's Word Bible) That Sunday evening, the disciples were together behind locked doors because they were afraid of the Jews. Jesus stood among them and said to them, "Peace be with you!" 2. Joh 20:26 - (Bugna) Ug sa tapus ang walo ka adlaw, didto na usab ang iyang mga tinon-an sa sulod, ug si Tomas uban kanila. Samtang ang pultahan tinak-upan, si Jesus misulod ug mitindog sa taliwala nila, ug miingon: Kaninyo ang pakigdait. Joh 20:26 (KJV) And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. 3. Buh 2:1 CEB.Bugna Ug sa miabut na ang adlaw sa Pentecostes, nanagtigum sa paghiusa ang tanan sa usa ka dapit. Act 2:1 - (God's Word Version) When Pentecost(Feast of weeks), the fiftieth day after Passover, came, all the believers were together in one place. 4. Buh. 20:7 -(Bugna) Ug sa nahaunang adlaw sa semana, sa nanagkatigum kami sa pagtipiktipik sa tinapay, nagwali kanila si Pablo kay buot siya molakaw sa adlaw nga mosunod; ug gitaas ang iyang wali hangtud sa tungang gabii. Act 20:7 (KJV) And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight. Act 20:7 (God's Word Version) On Sunday we met to break bread. Paul was discussing Scripture with the people. Since he intended to leave the next day, he kept talking until midnight. Act 20:7 On Sunday we all met together to eat the Lord's Supper. Paul talked to the group. Because he was planning to leave the next day, he continued talking until midnight. Act. 20:7 (The Living bible) - On Sunday we gathered together for a communion. Act. 20:7 - (The bible in contemporary Language) - The Message Bible (MSG) - We met on Sunday to worship and celebrate the Master's Supper. 5. 1Cor. 16:1-2 - Ceb bugna -Karon mahatungod sa amot, alang sa mga balaan, ingon sa gisugo ko sa mga iglesia sa Galacia, buhaton usab ninyo. 1Co 16:2 Sa nahaunang adlaw sa semana, ang tagsatagsa kaninyo magpinig sa tipiganan, sa bahin nga angay ingon sa iyang nadawat sa Dios aron walay pagpaamot sa akong pag-abut. A. 1Co 16:1 (KJV) Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye. 1Co 16:2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come. B. 1Co 16:1 (ASV) Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I gave order to the churches of Galatia, so also do ye. 1Co 16:2 Upon the first day of the week let each one of you lay by him in store, as he may prosper, that no collections be made when I come. C. 1Co 16:1 (Contemporary English Version) When you collect money for God's people, I want you to do exactly what I told the churches in Galatia to do. 1Co 16:2 That is, each Sunday each of you must put aside part of what you have earned. If you do this, you won't have to take up a collection when I come. D. 1Co 16:1 (English standard Version) Now concerning the collection for the saints: as I directed the churches of Galatia, so you also are to do. 1Co 16:2 On the first day of every week, each of you is to put something aside and store it up, as he may prosper, so that there will be no collecting when I come.

Sunday, August 26, 2018


Honestly there comes in my life that I said "I stop preaching", but like Jeremiah of old, "...But His word was in mine heart as a burning fire shut up in my bones, and I was weary with forbearing, and I could not stay." (20:9). through the years what I learned is that "Be Strong". As a preacher, there would be people who compliment you when you preach, will keep on saying "I really bless with your preaching", and as a preacher, there must be an humble mind and heart to accept it. There are times negative comments, and must be strong enough to face it. When I was a child, I thought preaching is an easy work. You just be in the pulpit, deliver a sermon then after it, finish - - - but I was totally wrong. Preaching is not an easy job. Lessons be thoroughly studied, sermons be scriptural, convicting the people that they are in sin is not easy, there must be strong conviction of the truth - - - to PREACH THE TRUTH IN LOVE (Eph. 4:15). Preaching is to meet with people, people with different backgrounds, different attitudes and different minds. Like in the local church where I am working now, I preach to my fellow Indigenous Peoples, those people who are considered by the Philippine government less privileged. I am blessed in preaching the pure gospel of the grace of God to my fellow Indigenous People. People say that I should preach to the congregation who are rich, so that they could support me well enough but woe unto me if I neglect my fellow natives; they are so dear to me. Preaching is my life, my first love. MEN MARK A. TUMANDAN

Friday, August 24, 2018


PREMILLENNIALISM (by Kyle Pope) Throughout history there have been religious groups that have believed that the promises of Christ reigning for 1000 years, described in Revelation chapter 20, speak of a coming earthly kingdom. Those who hold to this view believe that there will be a "rapture" of the saints, sparing them from a period of severe tribulation. This view has led many to interpret ongoing political events in light of this anticipated tribulation and earthly kingdom. Let's consider what the Bible teaches about these doctrines. The Promises of Revelation Chapter Twenty Revelation chapter 20 refers to Christ reigning for 1000 years, but a close study of the text shows that it is not describing a future earthly reign of Christ on the earth, but Christ reigning over His church even though persecution was poured out on His people. The chapter begins: Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while (Rev. 20:1-3, NKJV). We note from this text that the period of 1000 years is connected with the binding of Satan. Old Testament prophecy associated the restriction of demonic power with the reign of the Messiah (Zech. 13:1-6). During Jesus' ministry He described the work of the apostles as conquering Satan (Luke 10:17-20). This suggests that Jesus' work while on earth should reasonably be connected with this description of the binding of Satan. The text continues: And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years (Rev. 20:4-6). We should note, the text speaks of the "souls" of those martyred for Christ living with Christ. There is no indication that this "first resurrection" is a bodily earthly resurrection. Further, nothing is said about Jesus reigning upon the earth. Much of the focus of the book of Revelation concerns the persecution of Christians under the Roman Empire. This persecution would not last forever, nor would it succeed in destroying the church. The cause of Christ would survive and rise again. The souls who died for this cause did not die in vain. They reign with Christ, even in the death of their bodies. If we interpret this as a future earthly reign, wouldn't that mean that Christ isn't reigning now? The Bible shows us He now reigns as King. Before Jesus' ascension His universal authority was declared. He now has all authority "in heaven and on earth" (Matt. 28:18-20). When He returns it will not be to begin reigning, but for judgment. The text continues: Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire. (Rev. 20:7-15). Much of the book of Revelation is comprised of signs, symbols, and figurative language expressing the broad message of Christ's victory over all enemies. The first verse says that things that would "shortly come to pass" God "signified them to his servant John" (Rev. 1:1, LO). In light of this, it is reasonable to conclude that this period of a "thousand years" should not be taken literally, but of a long period of time during which Christ reigns from heaven. However we interpret the "thousand years" it is clear that final judgment comes after this period of Christ's reign. The Bible teaches that when Christ returns, all opposition to His reign will be brought to a complete end. If this passage describes Jesus reigning upon the earth in a future earthly kingdom, will He allow rebellion on the earth while He sits on the throne prior to this final victory? This text tells us Satan and all who follow him will be cast into the lake of fire (i.e. hell). When He returns all will be resurrected and judged. 1 Corinthians 15:20-25 teaches at that time Christ will deliver the kingdom over to the Father when death is brought to an end. This makes it reasonable to conclude that Christ's reign is happening now. When He returns it will be for final judgment. The Nature of Christ's Kingdom A fundamental error of Premillennialism is its misrepresentation of what the Bible teaches about the nature of Christ's kingdom. The prophet Daniel prophesied that during the third kingdom after Babylon an eternal kingdom would be set up (Dan. 2:28-44). This prophecy identifies when the Messiah's kingdom would be established. The Roman Empire was the third kingdom after Babylon and Jesus established the church during this reign (Luke 3:1-6). Premillennialists argue that the church is something separate and distinct from the Lord's kingdom, but Scripture teaches that the church is the spiritual kingdom of souls in submission to Christ as King. Jesus declared that His kingdom was not of this world (John 18:33-38). He declared the kingdom would not come with observation, but was within (Luke 17:20-21). Jesus declared that some who were alive when He spoke would not die until they saw the kingdom come with power (Mk. 9:1). With this Jesus declared plainly that His kingdom is not earthly, observable, or to be established later than the lifetime of some who were alive in the first century. The apostles' statements about the kingdom make it clear that they believed the kingdom had already come. Paul told the Colossians that Christ had already translated them into the kingdom (Col. 1:13-14). John spoke of those alive when he lived who were his brothers and companions in the kingdom (Rev. 1:9). It is clear that the very apostle who wrote the promises of the thousand-year reign already understood Christ to be reigning over him and others. When Will the Saints Be "Caught Up" to Meet Jesus? A passage often used to defend the notion of a "rapture" of the saved, sparing them from a period of tribulation comes in Paul's first epistle to the church in Thessalonica. It reads: But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord (1 Thess. 4:13-17, NKJV). We should note from this text that when Jesus returns He will bring with Him those who "sleep in Jesus." This is not a resurrection separate from final judgment. When Jesus returns the dead in Christ will rise. Paul says the saved will "meet the Lord in the air" and "always be with the Lord," not raptured away while Christ sets up an earthly kingdom. There is no indication that Jesus will return to the earth itself. The heaven and earth will be destroyed at His return (2 Pet. 3:10-13). There is no indication that those "caught up" will be separated from Jesus, in order to be spared from some tribulation while awaiting an earthly kingdom. Passages that refer to some taken and some left properly refer to either the destruction of Jerusalem and those taken captive or being "taken" in judgment, not to some pre-kingdom rapture (cf. Matt. 24:40-41 and Luke 21:20-24). Conclusion The Bible teaches that Jesus established His kingdom when He came to this earth and was exalted as King. The Bible teaches that the church is Christ's kingdom. The Bible promises that when Jesus returns He will bring the resurrection and the final judgment. Living saints will be "caught up" to meet Jesus in the air, but the end of this world will come when this takes place.

Thursday, August 16, 2018

Report from Cipriano Jhun Agpasa Carpentero

Report from Cipriano Jhun Agpasa Carpentero August 15- Brethren we conducted public preaching.@ Tagoloan public Market Misamis Oriental Thank you brother Erwin Andallon, Jun Nebato, Vicente Balduesa and Arlou Lucaban who participating the gospel work after the public preaching we proceed to the house of brother Arlou Lucaban to have bible study my topic The church of Christ the important of membership of the church. Special thanks to my wife Maria Fe and sister Lyn2x Nebato to support us.

Sunday, August 12, 2018

Cipriano Jhun Agpasa Carpentero - at Taguloan Misamis Oriental

August 08- we have a bible study at Taguloan Misamis Oriental after the baptism of their last july 15 i surprised their sign board before named JESUS CHRIST IS LORD was removed and change into CHURCH OF CHRIST- Cipriano Jhun Agpasa Carpentero

Cipriano Jhun Agpasa Carpentero - 3 Precious Souls Submit to Christ in Baptism

Cipriano Jhun Agpasa Carpentero Brethren August, 12--2018 - After gathering worship of the local church in Box1 Macasandig Cagayan de Oro City, Glory to God for 3 precious souls that obeyed the gospel were baptized, named brother Lourdes Abao former pastor from " Jesus Christ is Lord , sister Geneses Lucaban and Princess Lucaban.

GOSPEL WORK IN CAGAYAN BY Cipriano Jhun Agpasa Carpentero

Cipriano Jhun Agpasa Carpentero Yesterday at 7:58 PM · August 11- Thank you brother @Erwin Aligato Andallon and Arlou Lucaban who participating our public preaching this afternoon and distribution of tracks.
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FIELD REPORT: JULY 20-21, 2018